[Madog Barfog]

vutpakdi, on Apr 16 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

Telling someone, "you go try it out experimentally and decide what to do from there" isn't terribly helpful to most folks in most situations.

It's not that hard to do some objective scientific testing and report the results without bias - and considering that online forums are to facilitate learning, it's pretty important. I'm not saying "just go and experiment and then see what works", I'm saying that ideally, valid experimental data is better to base a decision on than heresay, and those who make the effort to provide such data shouldn't be ridiculed for it, which is waht got the conversation on this tangent in the first place.

vutpakdi, on Apr 16 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

I suggest caution about judging folks so harshly. It is very easy to get a very skewed if not outright incorrect, opinion of who someone is based on a very limited set of data

Earlier this week someone suggested on space.com that since diesel fuel works so well in his wife's truck, it should be used to power moon rovers. I also see people continue to repeat that evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics, which tells me they understand neither evolution nor thermodynamics, or even how science works - believe it or not, people with PhDs in biology understand high school-level physics. So, yeah, sometimes it is easy to judge the critical decision-making skills or science background someone possesses based on outrageous statements such as this.

Reality TV is mostly editing, and considering that there is sometimes a fair amount of money involved for a short period of work, I wouldn't hold that against anybody. As you say, they have no control over what is presented, which is forgotten a couple of weeks after the show anyway.

[celestialkin]

Thank you for the advice guys (and gals). I was surprised to get help from the woman who made this very paint.

I have tried to follow your advice, and so far I have done two coats with a five-hour wait between them. I tried to keep them thin and I thinned them with a 4:1 ratio. I did not have an old toothbrush, so I could not wash it. I am currently having two problems, though.

a) It is difficult to get all the recess. After spending quite a bit of time on this figure I believed that I primed it all, but checking it over I obviously didn't.
b) I can't seem to properly primer it. There are little spots all over the miniature that show the metal underneath.

In reality a and b are no big issues, since obviously the only solution is to just paint it again. What I am worried about is obscuring the details by adding even more layers/paint. The spots are so scattered and small that I will be going over many parts of the figure a forth time. If I need to do it again it will be a fourth time.

I don't think the recess will cause a problem, though.

This takes a while to do, though. I am glad I do not need to do a whole army like this.

If it is this hard to thin simple primer I don't know what I am going to do now that I need to learn to paint thinned paint. Should I use the same 4:1 ratio for reaper master paints?

Oh, and I meant a layer which was too thick in my last post. Sorry for the confusion.

[celestialkin]

Jeez. I just tried to touch the mini up, but now it seems like there are even more bare spots all over the miniature. It seems like I actually made it worse. I even glued the mini to a large milk gallon cap before I started all of this to make sure I never touch the mini with my hands.

[vutpakdi]

I can think of two possible problems:

• there is mold release, dust, or some other substance on the mini that is causing the primer to stick poorly. Washing the mini (before priming) would address this problem.
  
• you are brushing too hard over areas that are not fully dry. This one seems unlikely.

Ron

[celestialkin]

vutpakdi, on Apr 21 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

I can think of two possible problems:

• there is mold release, dust, or some other substance on the mini that is causing the primer to stick poorly. Washing the mini (before priming) would address this problem.
  
• you are brushing too hard over areas that are not fully dry. This one seems unlikely.

Ron

Oh! I guess that I really underestimated the importance of washing the miniatures. I'll go to Walmart in the morning and get a cheap brush.


Thank you for correcting me.