Paint sets / Vampire Level
#16
Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:37 AM
#17
Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:33 PM
I'm not saying you should buy them, only that they have uses beyond their labeled names.
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#18
Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:34 PM
I'm not saying you should buy them, only that they have uses beyond their labeled names.
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#19
Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:36 PM
I'm thinking about getting sets 1 and 3 simply because all I've got are artists' acrylics, which have a much thicker texture and I suspect are more difficult to handle for specifically miniatures painting. Those two to my eye look like excellent basic sets.
Not to dissuade you from buying from Reaper but the artist acrylics will work perfectly fine on minis. They are quite a bit thicker coming out but you can thin them with no issues since they have such high pigment content. I'd use some acrylic medium plus water instead of just water since these have to be thinned more.
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#20
Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:24 AM
I'm thinking about getting sets 1 and 3 simply because all I've got are artists' acrylics, which have a much thicker texture and I suspect are more difficult to handle for specifically miniatures painting. Those two to my eye look like excellent basic sets.
Not to dissuade you from buying from Reaper but the artist acrylics will work perfectly fine on minis. They are quite a bit thicker coming out but you can thin them with no issues since they have such high pigment content. I'd use some acrylic medium plus water instead of just water since these have to be thinned more.
Thanks. That's good advice.
I'm still dithering over getting the paints (thankfully the Kickstarter manager thingy isn't out yet so I don't *have* to decide *just* yet). I do have a lot of artists' acrylics in great colors whose compositions and properties I know exactly, which I trust more than premixed colors. I have some reason to believe that Golden fluid matte acrylics or something very like them are the foundation for most mini paints, so I'm trying them out for starters.
But although I think in the long run they are cheaper, more stable, and easier to control, artists' acryics have a steep learning curve compared to premixed, preformulated mini paints. For beginners and people who don't expect to paint more than minis, I think these sets are a good deal.
"If there is not an article about it on Wikipedia I will lose my faith in people with too much time on their hands."
-- Richard Garfinkle
"All alternate histories produce zeppelins."
-- Ken Hite
#21
Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:04 AM
#22
Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:37 AM
After that, start painting. If you find yourself wanting something "Like that but brighter", "like that but darker" or "just not that shade of green" then it's time to look for more colours!
Example 1: the MSP "Clear Bright" formulations are extra-bright but not very good at covering. If you find a colour isn't intense enough, grab its "Clear Bright" cousin to layer over it.
Example 2: if you find you want to shade armour deeper and faster, grab some Black Wash.
Example 3: if your metallics just don't come to a bright enough highlight, grab some Pearl White.
Anyway, there's plenty of cheerful advice to be had here on the boards, to help you pick the right colour for the task.
Naturally, he died because a wizard exploded.
#23
Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:55 AM
So for a n00b painter who is getting vampire and a bunch of extras, cthulhu, all the giants, some dragons... I am getting paint sets 1 and 3, what should I supplement these with? A few artist acrylics (steep learning curve?) in what colors? I'm more interested in the fantasy side, btw. Thanks in advance
Artist acrylics are unnecessary unless you want/need a specific color. I have a bottle of Liquitex Payne's Grey soft body acrylic, but I use it for a very specific purpose. MSP is such a wide paint line you're really spoiled for choice. The best advice is once you get your new paint sets start painting. It will become evident what colors you need as you start working. Or you can be like Buglips and I and have hundreds of bottles of paints for no other reason than we can.
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#24
Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:25 PM
Sacrificing minions: is there any problem it CAN'T solve?
- Lord Xykon, OotS #192
Beowulf ll. 1538-1543
... Pay no heed to proud thoughts, famous champion. Now the flowering of your strength is but for a while. After a while, the time will suddenly come that disease or the sword's edge will cut off your power. Either fire's grasp or flood's surge or blade's bite or spear's flight. Or vicious age, or the flash of your eyes will gutter and burn out! It will be all at once, great campaigner, that death will overpower you.
It's terrifying! Without enough caffeine your body undergoes these hours of partial paralysis and hallucinations! :shudder:
- Argentee
Black Lightning: MA010.
#25
Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:55 PM
Or you can be like Buglips and I and have hundreds of bottles of paints for no other reason than we can.
One of these days, one of these days I'm going to look at a miniature and say: "You know what this needs? This needs a good layer of Bullywug Belly." And on that day I'll have it. Maybe only that one time, but I'll have it.
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#26
Posted 21 September 2012 - 01:10 PM

Going to be great for Sedition Wars!
#27
Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:57 PM
So for a n00b painter who is getting vampire and a bunch of extras, cthulhu, all the giants, some dragons... I am getting paint sets 1 and 3, what should I supplement these with? A few artist acrylics (steep learning curve?) in what colors? I'm more interested in the fantasy side, btw. Thanks in advance
Get some painting under your belt before you decide. Army Warpainter's Quickshade Strong Ink (not the minwax stuff) is very useful as a general brown wash. Do a search on it. Also, look around the house for something to use as an eye dropper! Very useful for thinning paints! The Master's Brush soap is a must and inexpensive with a Michael's or other craft store coupon. Get some cheap synthetic miniatures brushes to experiment with. When you're ready, move on to sable brushes.
If you want some practice, buy a game or toy set with a ton of mini's and go nuts. Find a sale of craft paints at a craft store, buy a few paints, white spray primer, and pick up a detail brush and a regular-sized brush. If the mini's can fight each other, get a copy of Song of Blade and Heroes for $4. Army men vs. dinosaurs. Cowboys vs. Indians. Farm animals vs. Everyone.
#28
Posted 21 September 2012 - 04:18 PM
If you don't have a decent desk lamp or two, with bendy necks and swivelling heads to put the light on the angle you want, start looking for some. Anything will do for now, but you might want to avoid fluro lamps since they can do very strange and sneaky things to contrast and colours.
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#29
Posted 21 September 2012 - 04:33 PM
Don't just go by the color names. Look at the colors themselves and think what use you might have for them. Set #4 has some interesting colors. "Alien goo," "LED blue," and "neon yellow" look pretty bright and might be useful for fire or glowing eyes effects or whatever the name is for brushing on color to look like light playing over a figure.
Thats why I ended up getting set 4 as well, there were too many possibilities for funky highlights and detailing
#30
Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:01 PM
If you didn't have any paints which of the paint sets would you get? I was thinking I would get 1, 2, and 3. Now I'm thinking of just 1 and 3. Hmm
The only paint set to which I'm indifferent is the one with all the metallics in it. Though, I'll probably get that one too and just give my friends what I don't want.
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