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[combatpainter]

I have switched over to Reaper paints after years of using Foundry. No complaints about Foundry. They lasted me forever. The price I felt was a bit extreme and the access was limited. I also felt that some of the triads were but repeated colors and after much research I found that many painters had the same feelings. Despite that, there are many excellent triads that work. I switched to Reaper because of the easy access, quality and price.

I am very satisfied with the Reaper line of paints. I have found a watery one which I will address in the future. Most paints are excellent. I use the triads as it speeds up things for me when I paint larger armies. Most of the triads are spot on. There is one in particular I need to address:Bone Triad 058, 059, 060 needs to be reajusted. The shadow color is way too extreme(dark) for the subleness of the range. I have been using it for a month now and the shadow is too dark from the other two lighter bone colors which are bordering on being almost identical. These are still workable out of the pot. Is there a quality control for these sets??? You can't tell in the swatches online but when you get it it is very apprarent. Bone is an excellent color, BTW. it works for so many things.

Has anyone else noticed this? Can these be readjusted? The color works so it is a shame to not have it as it should be. It takes mixing to make it work and I don't mind that when I need to do it and I am taking my time but with armies I like to go out of the pot to save time and it can't be done with this triad. How can these sort of issues get addressed? Does Reaper just let it go at that? Is there any hope for the future of this color triad???

[TaleSpinner]

There are a lot of triads that have a fairly large jump from one shade to the next. Personally, I don't have an issue with this as ALL of the triads in my experience need to be mixed in at least 5 shade progressions to achieve smooth blends. To try to highlight in only three steps (no matter what paints you are using) is just not enough unless you are cell shading (which may be the case if you are an army painter).

I personally love the Bone Triad as it is. I just used it this last week. Typically I mix it up in a 5 part shade progression for small areas. If I have larger areas to cover I may got as high at 9 shades (often using shades from the Ivory triad or Leather white to add additional hilights, depending on what I need.

Anyway, it should be noted that the triads, at least as Anne explained them when they first came out, were not intended to be used as shipped, but are a good starting point and short cut to developing a shade and highlight progression.

If I were you, and you want this adjusted so you can more easily use it for army painting, I'd get an empty bottle and use it to mix a 1:1 ratio of the shadow and mid-tone to give you a fourth shade between the two. You could then have that as your shadow or paint in a four part progression.

I hope this helps,

Andy

[combatpainter]

If I were you, and you want this adjusted so you can more easily use it for army painting, I'd get an empty bottle and use it to mix a 1:1 ratio of the shadow and mid-tone to give you a fourth shade between the two. You could then have that as your shadow or paint in a four part progression.

I hope this helps,

Andy

Greetings to all!

Andy,

That is definitely a solution. What you are saying is that when you get lemons you make lemonade. LMAO

Like I stated, painters that work on one miniature look for one thing, painters that work on 40 look for another. Usually, the triads are for guys in between. They can either use it straight from the bottle(if the triad is right) to save time or they know enough to add and subtract by mixing and make 9 shades out of it.

The triad works, but in my mind, not how it is suppose to. Granted this is not a perfect science and like I said, I like the paint. All this can be rather subjected and really not worth going on too much about but if you compare the " Bone" color to some of the other triads, the former's shade color is quite distant from the mid-tone. Not that there are not others that can also be called imperfect but this one happens to be one that stands out. It should be adjusted to make it a truer triad. If necessary a darker bone version can be created. I personally would like a hand in creating a set of triads.

Have a great day!

[cerebro1974]

Combat,

Kudos! You took the comments from Tale as his opinion, and not as an attack! This type of community is what I love best of the Reaper Forums!

Maybe you should start a thread on MSP Paits we'd like to see....

[Wren]

If you're painting in bulk, I understand why this would annoy you. TaleSpinner is right that this is not the only triad where you might find you need to mix an intermediate step for two. The Foundry paints were designed with the Foundry army painting system in mind, so I assume their steps are pretty much ideal to work out of the bottle. (I haven't had the opportunity to try them personally.)

Reaper's triads are more intended as a guideline for painters who are nervous about choosing highlight and shade colours. The three in a triad work nicely together, but depending on your desired effect, you might need to mix intermediary steps, or add a bit of darker/lighter paint in to the two extremes for optimal shading or highlighting.

I love the Bone Shadow colour and use it for lots of things, but I primarily paint display painting and have resigned myself to being as slow as molasses at it, so I'm coming at it from a different perspective indeed!