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#1 lubo_dragonbane

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 11:35 AM

hi i have been panting mini now about a year and this one is the first one i am working on doing shadows and highlights as well as trying nmm. I am also thinking about changing the white armor to reapers HD dragon blue. i am open to any help or advise to help me get better at painting. sorry for the pic bad it from my cell.

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#2 Silas Coggeshall

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:06 PM

Welcome to the forums. :) You'll learn a lot from some of the guys here. Anyway that mini looks pretty good so far. ;) I love any kind of Dragonborn looking mini I can get my hands on. And don't worry about the pics. Taking pics of minis can be a real pain.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 04:40 PM

Welcome.

Some advice for the Red skin is to highlight with Oranges and\or Yellows (either mixed with your base or by themselves) as if you use anythign with too much white you'll end up with a pink color.


For NMM remember that contrast is key so you'll want your highligts to be pure white and your shades to be a really dark blue or brown (mixed with some black but not pure black).

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#4 lubo_dragonbane

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:13 PM

thanks for the tips on nnm and the for highlighting red skin. one of the thing that giving my trouble is shadowing white but a few people give me some tips on shadowing white. i tryed just using ashen grey but as u can see on the chest it came out bad. that was why i was thinking about changing the armor to dragon blue and shadow and highlight that i have done blue shadowing and highlights. when i first started this one i want to try and do the white cause this mini will be my my mini for when i play dnd i play a red dragonborn paladin.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 12:39 AM

There are lots of ways to shade white but the simplest is to just add small amounts of black to your white to get a steady gray. You don't want to go too dark though (the shade you have the claws would be the max I'd go if that far). It's hard to make out but it looks like your shading looks brown and not gray. Also the breast plate looks flat, which is harder to shade (for me at least) so you might want to start with one of the curved pieces as that has something that's easier to deal with in my opinion and that way you can get your grays correct or decide if you want to go blue.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:12 PM

what do u think would be better as glaze or as a wash or as a like a base coat for putting on the shadow and highlights

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 04:27 PM

Looks great so far, especially for someone who's only been painting for a year. Here's my WIP of that miniature, in case you find it useful:

http://mamageekminis...es/tag/draconid
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#8 lubo_dragonbane

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:06 PM

your the one that did the the whip chain i saw on darksword u did a amazing job on it. i just start not to long ago doing extra thing like the shadows and highlights but I'm still having proplems with the shadowing part, mostly with the white armor. im not gonna do nmm not on this mini. this mini is just for dnd the next draconid i do will one that would enter in the competition. maybe u can help me what would be the best way to add the shadow as wash or as a glaze.

#9 MamaGeek

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:28 PM

I honestly don't know the difference between a wash and a glaze. I paint in layers, using a lot of wet blending as well.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:59 PM

ive tryed wet blending but like nmm i just cant seem to get it right. any tips u can give for wet blending

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

You have to use water to dilute your paint. When the water dries, the colors melt together.
Take a look at this topic. Wet Blending

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:52 PM

As for my understanding on washes and glazes.

A wash is meant to enter into the holes and crevices from the areas where it is applied on. For a wash the paint is so diluted that it looks more like tinted water. I use washes to shade minis.

Glaze are thin layers of translucent paint. I would say a glaze is a wetbrushing. I use glazing to tint the upper surfaces and textures when I want to let the under color show through.

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#13 lubo_dragonbane

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

thanks for the help metalchaos with wash and glaze for the link for wet blending. i have the hot lead video on it way just waiting for it to get here and for those that have been waiting for a updated pic sorry their has not been i had to stop cause of work leaving me no time for painting and also have to paint mini for my dnd group.i hope to have a new pic of of the draconid i hope by the weekend.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:30 PM

what do u think would be better as glaze or as a wash or as a like a base coat for putting on the shadow and highlights


Sorry been out of town and playing Dark Souls so I haven't been around much the past week. I'm a glazer personally, and rarely use washes anymore, but that's my own taste\style. I can't really say you should use one over another but instead use the method you like the most.

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#15 lubo_dragonbane

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:38 PM

had to start over after my little cousin flushed the other one. for this one i bent in the arms so when i use it for dnd i dont take up 3 blocks. on this one i tryed the thing u all suggested to me. also desided to leave the head off so i could get in and do all the shadows on the head and neck that i could not before when i had the head on.

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