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If you are a Backer, you should read our Secret Update #14.
To all of you, Backer or not, we have hit and passed several Stretch Goals. (Thanks Guys!). By reason of everyone’s support, we have:
Bumped the number of wallpapers to FOUR. Anyone at Pledge Level $51 or above will get them on the CDROM, so you won’t even have to download them. Since delivery is gong to be in December, we have added Andrew Boulton’s Santa’s Scout.
Increased the Traveller Dice Swag to THREE (Red-Black-White). And if you buy the Dice Option, you still get the Swag.
Added Deckplans for the Scout. Everyone uses a Scout at some time or another. We’re including this large printed sheet with every Book Order. If you are just getting the CDROM, then the deck plans will be included on the disk.
Added Deckplans for the Beowulf. Any merchant needs a Free Trader to start out with. We’re including this large printed sheet with every Book Order. If you are just getting the CDROM, then the deck plans will be included on the disk.
By The Way, creating these deck plans establishes a standard for other deck plans that we want to (and will) do.
Added Jesse DeGraff color ship plates to the Book. The Scout/Courier image on our Kickstarter Page is a Jesse DeGraff image. I always prefer useful images when illustrating n RPG, and these are certainly useful.
TAS Cards. When we reach the $180,000 Stretch Goal (in the next couple days we hope) we’ll add a Travellers’ Aid Society personalized membership card top every Pledge at $51 or above.
Endleaves. When we reach the $190,000 Stretch Goal (an entirely reasonable aspiration) we’ll add printed Endleaves to the Book, showing a variety of useful charts and tables for ready reference. The same material will also be on the CDROM.
Cr25 Rebate. When we reach the $200,000 Pledge level, we’ll institute a Cr25 rebate at the $51 Pledge Level, and a Cr50 Rebate (TWO coins) at the $100 Pledge level.
1500 Backers! When we get to 1500 Backers (145 more needed) we’ll put a Player’s Book on the schedule for Spring 2013. The 150-page LBB size Handbook will have what a Player needs to play Traveller. Ideal for everyone at the table.
2000 Books. This is a real Stretch Goal. If we can get to 2000 Books (number of books is roughly equal to number of Backers), we’re going to expand the Nobility grants by including a Knighthood with EVERY book (in addition to the nobilities of the higher level Books).
Coming In Our Next Email: The Wall Of Heroes… more than you thought it would be!"
Traveller5 kick-starter
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Baphomet69
, Jun 25 2012 04:27 PM
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:27 PM
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
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Baphomet69
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:30 PM
Reaper! Here's your chance. Contact Marc Miller and contract to do the mini's for T5! Pleeeeeeeeze!
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:22 PM
I haven't played Traveler since nineteen eighty something. Everything comes back around eventually.
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:47 AM
Ignoring my feelings about T5 being published even though Mongoose's Traveller is still in print, $100.00 for a physical (dead tree) edition of a black and white book is out of line. $50.00 for the .pdf is equally and possibly even more ludicrous.
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Sun Tzu, ancient Chinese General
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:02 PM
Considering that most gaming books of 250-300 pages go for $55-60 or more nowadays and this one tops out at 600 pages with free shipping (and freebies like dice), the price, while certainly not a bargain, doesn't sound as aggregious. As for the PDF, it does come on a CD, but yes, $50 sounds steep, but remember, this project is a kick-starter to get the project going, not FFE's store front. In fact that's the beauty of it, if someone doesn't like it, they don't need to back it.
As for the Mongoose Traveller issue, Marc Miller gave them the license to keep the game alive (he didn't have the resources himself). As for T5, he's been working on it for years. He says himself that T5 is the version he himself always wanted. Let's be honest, T5 is never going to sell tens of thousands of copies, but how can having two versions available based on one's taste be a bad thing.
As for the Mongoose Traveller issue, Marc Miller gave them the license to keep the game alive (he didn't have the resources himself). As for T5, he's been working on it for years. He says himself that T5 is the version he himself always wanted. Let's be honest, T5 is never going to sell tens of thousands of copies, but how can having two versions available based on one's taste be a bad thing.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:15 AM
I don't see any problem with Miller producing the T5 edition of Traveller while Mongoose is publishing another version. Especially since Mongoose is essentially publishing a modified version of 1st edition, and what Miller is producing is going to only appeal to the hardcore Traveller fanatics like myself. WoTC essentially is doing the same thing because of the open gaming license that exists for D&D 3.0 and 3.5.
Since I have incredibly fond memories of playing Traveller through Jr High and High School (1st edition box set) I'm more than happy to back Marc on this little Kickstarter project. I only wish my friend Clay Bush was still around to see this.
Since I have incredibly fond memories of playing Traveller through Jr High and High School (1st edition box set) I'm more than happy to back Marc on this little Kickstarter project. I only wish my friend Clay Bush was still around to see this.
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* Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, ... - Shakespeare's Henry V
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* Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war - Shakespeare's Julius Caeser
* Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
* We occasionally stumble over the truth but most of us pick ourselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. Winston Churchill
* Tardis Express: When it absolutely, positively, has to be there yesterday
* Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, ... - Shakespeare's Henry V
* My two hobby blog; Wargames and Railroads
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:15 PM
69 hours to go...
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
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John Stuart Mill
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:21 AM
48 hours to go and approaching the 1000% funding mark!
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:12 AM
24 hours to go and approaching both 1800 backers and 1100% funding!
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 01:04 AM
10 hours left and it's closing in on 2000 backers and passed $275k. :)
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:04 AM
Woohoo! With 4 hours to go it just hit 2k backers, and less than $18k to go to hit $300k!
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:14 AM
Just thought I would bump this. Traveller5 is now shipping and books have now been spotted in the wild. Marc decided to ship from the highest pledge levels down. There are a couple of pics on COTI of one of the premium editions with the slipcase cover being shown off. http://www.traveller...?t=29375&page=3
* It's NOT denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept. -- Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)
* Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war - Shakespeare's Julius Caeser
* Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
* We occasionally stumble over the truth but most of us pick ourselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. Winston Churchill
* Tardis Express: When it absolutely, positively, has to be there yesterday
* Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, ... - Shakespeare's Henry V
* My two hobby blog; Wargames and Railroads
* Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war - Shakespeare's Julius Caeser
* Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
* We occasionally stumble over the truth but most of us pick ourselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. Winston Churchill
* Tardis Express: When it absolutely, positively, has to be there yesterday
* Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, ... - Shakespeare's Henry V
* My two hobby blog; Wargames and Railroads
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:22 PM
My friend and I were going to play the MegaTraveler variant when we were in high school. We never seemed to make it past character creation though. I certainly wish him luck as I was always intrigued by the system. And for those naysayers about the cost, Traveler is a very complete and detailed set of rules that come pretty close to addressing any issue that could be encountered in a campaign set in a galaxy and also has a very robust background setting. Developing this stuff takes time and money. If I still did RPGs I'd be tempted to pick this up. Now, if they redid their Striker 15mm miniatures game that I'd be interested in throwing some cash at.
I'm not so sure I'd want to get hit by a missile with a "dog brain" AI.
My blog: http://scsminimadness.blogspot.com/
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:22 AM
I only played the original version of Traveller. I enjoyed the campaigns we played. However I always felt it was more a description of a set of game rules as opposed to a complete set of rules in and of itself.
Striker is the only 15mm game I've ever played. Wish I remembered what I did with those minis.
Striker is the only 15mm game I've ever played. Wish I remembered what I did with those minis.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:14 AM
FYI, you can still get the Striker rules (along with all the other canon Classic Traveller material) on CD for $35 from FarFuture.net
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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