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[Kengar]

I have a friend's Space Hulk minis (the newer release) and wanted to paint them up for him as Blood Angels. How crazy would it be to hit them with something like Krylon red? I don't have an airbrush. They are already filed and primed. I'm just looking to save some time on the base color, and since GW stopped selling the Citadel sprays, I'm wondering about alternatives.

[sethohman]

Krylon will be very difficult to get paint onto, as it is generally an enamel type finish. Use Testors spray Flat Red - it is what I do. Hard to find at bigger stores (Michaels, Hobby Lobby) - I have to get mine at a local historical models store (tomorrow!).

[Kengar]

Krylon will be very difficult to get paint onto, as it is generally an enamel type finish. Use Testors spray Flat Red - it is what I do. Hard to find at bigger stores (Michaels, Hobby Lobby) - I have to get mine at a local historical models store (tomorrow!).

Thanks for the advice! There's a hobby shop that specializes in models, RC, and trains, near me. I'll have to see what they've got. Have you used the Flat Red specifically for Blood Angels?

Also, has anyone tried armypainter's sprays? They have a red, too. It's a bigger can, but more $

[Lars Porsenna]

Krylon will be very difficult to get paint onto, as it is generally an enamel type finish. Use Testors spray Flat Red - it is what I do. Hard to find at bigger stores (Michaels, Hobby Lobby) - I have to get mine at a local historical models store (tomorrow!).

I didn't believe you at first until I went to the Testors website. Let me just say Flat Red was not ALWAYS available, and now that it is, I'm very happy!

Damon.

PS: Testors spraypaints are also an enamel. I use flat black all the time as a primer for plastics, as well as various shades of gray, and have been painting some figures with acrylics over their gold metallic spraypaint.

[sethohman]

PS: Testors spraypaints are also an enamel. I use flat black all the time as a primer for plastics, as well as various shades of gray, and have been painting some figures with acrylics over their gold metallic spraypaint.

True. The Krylon is usually a more satin or gloss finish - so very hard to paint on, if not impossible. But the flat finish of the Testors works like a primer, and is easily painted over.

I have not used it on my Blood Angels, yet. First can was used on dragons / khorne stuff / flaming things. So I know it can be painted over. I use the flat olive green for my WW2 US stuff, and the flat gray as primer.

[Angorak]

I would also maybe look at the Army Painter line of spray paints. I'm pretty sure they would have a color closer to Blood Angels than krylon.

[Kengar]

I would also maybe look at the Army Painter line of spray paints. I'm pretty sure they would have a color closer to Blood Angels than krylon.

I found Army Painter's "Dragon Red." It seems to fit the bill. I don't care for how much they charge for their dip, but I'll shell out for the right color spray (≈$13). Heck maybe if the BA's look okay I'll basecoat Marthrangul with it.

If this gets to be a habit, though, I'll probably need to get an airbrush.

EDIT: I also picked up a can of the Navy Blue, which is supposed to be close to Ultramarines. I have a dreadnought and a few MacCragge ultras lying around to test it on. I'll let folks know how it goes with both colors.

[Lars Porsenna]

I remember Ultramarines when they were...ultramarine blue...

Damon.

[Kengar]

I remember Ultramarines when they were...ultramarine blue...

Damon.

Ha!

Yes, I know. And if I could just buy a spray can of Citadel UM blue, I would. The Army Painter's description of the Navy Blue claims "Combined with DARK Tone Quick Shade you really get a beautiful blue colour perfect for those Ultra Marines or Cygnar machines!"

I figure on hitting the models with a black ink "magic sauce" wash afterwards.

I also want the blue for some tyranids.

[Lars Porsenna]

That comment wasn't neccessarily directed at you Kengar, but GW did change the color of their Ultramarines from UM Blue (the artists shade) to something darker. I don't play or use UMs, but I find it mildly annoying nonetheless...!

Damon.

[Kengar]

That comment wasn't neccessarily directed at you Kengar, but GW did change the color of their Ultramarines from UM Blue (the artists shade) to something darker. I don't play or use UMs, but I find it mildly annoying nonetheless...!

Damon.

Huh. I did not know that.

I wasn't offended, I was just laughing at the hoops I was jumping through to simply speedily basecoat the little perishers.

[Kengar]

I got the Army Painter sprays yesterday in the mail. Navy Blue & Dragon Red. I sprayed some CSMs and the Space Hulk minis. I used the blue on the Tyranids and the CSMs (I'm going to make those into Alpha Legions). The red was for the Blood Angels, of course. The colors were pretty good, but the blue is very "primary." Hopefully after the other colors are painted on and some shading, it won't be quite so bright. For UMs, it would probably be OK if you didn't have any others already painted with GW UM Blue. I'm slightly Blue-Green color blind and I could see the difference.

The red is terrific. If I got another low humidity day, I'll try it on Marthrangul.

The only thing I noticed was that after spraying the CSMs & 'Nids, it seemed like the can was nearly spent. It felt halfway emptied. Maybe that's more of a reflection on my sloppy spraying habits than the product. Also, there were a lot more models getting the blue than the red.

[Doug Sundseth]

I'm slightly Blue-Green color blind and I could see the difference.

I don't know these colors, so I'll not comment on how they might compare to others. You might be interested to know, though, that sometimes color deficiency can actually make it easier to see color differences. For example, the Air Force has found that sometimes color-deficient photo interpreters can see through camouflage in photos better tha photo interpreters with more typical vision. See, for example, this article from a 1940 issue of Time on the same issue for live observation.

My dad is red-green color deficient and spent much of his career in the military in photography (various jobs) and often found the deficiency to be an advantage in his job.

[Kengar]

The main "advantage" I've found to my color blindness is not being asked by the wife for opinions on decorating and the fact that my 7yo daughter finds it hilarious when I can't tell which toy is bluish green and which is greenish blue.

[mercoutlaw]

Gotta say I use almost exclusively Krylon! I do only use their Ultra Flat Black, Green, and Tan...also their Gray primer...best primers on the market in my opinion!