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[Chrome]

I don't follow the game closely so excuse me if this has been brought up somewhere else. I was at Wal-Mart over lunch, browsing the toy section and came across a whole line of WW2 tanks and vehicles. They're produced by 21st Century Toys under the Ultimate Soldier brand. They've got 4 different scales, 1:32 or 1:48 being the two I figured would work for RotD.

They don't seem to stock them on walmart.com, so you'll have to go find them yourselves if you're interested. They were in the same aisle as Hot Wheels and other stuff like that, but some stores might put them w/the action figures. Anyways, the 1:32 tanks were $15, which I thought was pretty damned good for a highly detailed and nicely painted miniature of that size.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

for pics...

http://www.21stcenturytoys.com/

[SaintRigger]

I think 1/56 is closest to 28mm, but the vehicles look a bit weird next to the figures - so 1/48 is probably the way to go.

Here is a neat link - http://www.napnuts.c...ry_tamiya48.htm

[BlueWeasel]

I think 1/56 is closest to 28mm, but the vehicles look a bit weird next to the figures - so 1/48 is probably the way to go.

Here is a neat link - http://www.napnuts.c...ry_tamiya48.htm

Hmm. I thought it was in the neighborhood of 1/64 to 1/72. Or am I thinking of 25mm?

[Sergeant_Crunch]

I've found this link useful..

http://www.io.com/~b...Comparison.html

The issue seems to be though that correctly scaled vehicles may seem small depending on how much taller the base makes your miniatures.

[adwyn]

The scale debate is long running in miniatures. Things like measuring to the eyes instead of the top of the mini doesn't help. Here's a good (and relevant to WWII) overview;
http://mainly28s.com...ring_scale.html

I like the 1/56 compromise a lot of companies have compromised on, but Walmarts 1/48th panzers snuck into my forces just because of the price.

[Chrome]

I saw these this weekend at Target: http://www.forcesofvalor.com/ They don't seem to have anything in 1:48 tho, just 1:32 and some 1:72 stuff. If you do a search on Target.com for "valor" you'll get 2 dozen hits, a lot of them seem to be stuff that's brand new, not even in stores yet.

[Joe Kutz]

I've found this link useful..

<a href="http://www.io.com/~beckerdo/minis/miniothe...Comparison.html" target="_blank">http://www.io.com/~beckerdo/minis/miniothe...Comparison.html</a>

The issue seems to be though that correctly scaled vehicles may seem small depending on how much taller the base makes your miniatures.

That link isn't entirely reliable. O scale is 1:43.5 (why they chose 1:43.5 and not a round number is beyond me...) not 1:48. 1:48 would be On30 - which although not uncommon, it isn't what most O scale refers to...especially in the US. That can lead to a significant problem when you are using O scale civilian vehicles and 1:48 or smaller scale military vehicles. The base issue has always been a non-starter for me. Mount your vehicles on a base if you like. I have so many miniatures which are in jumping poses or standing on top of cast details that the base height isn't a big deal. Granted I still use low profile bases for the majority of my minis.

Whichever scale you decide to go with, stick with it. One of the worst things is seeing an old Woodie which is large enough to park a Sherman tank in the back. The difference between the O Scale cars and military vehicles which are smaller ruins the whole presentation.

[armydillo978]

We've been using Forces of Valor to run RotD games for months now, combined with zombies from the Zombies game. Both are roughly the same scale and work perfectly. For the Kroids we just took some of the FoV and designated some of them, dry-brushed them with some gray/black and reddened the eyes.

I'm dying to see the greens or actual product for the RotD figures (hint, hint Reaper), but I guess we'll have to wait till "Soon^TM

Thankfully FoV also has a nice vehicle line and about 3 of them Tiger tanks coming down a street look really, really cool.

[Chrome]

O scale is 1:43.5 (why they chose 1:43.5 and not a round number is beyond me...)

I did a little searching on this, and its kinda cool. Real railroads needed to come up with a standardized way of telling how far apart the rails should be from each other. They came up with Standard Guage.

When model railroading became popular in the 60's, they followed the same system, that is of measuring the distance between the rails and having that determine the scale of the models. N Scale is called such b/c there is Nine mm seperating the tracks. O Scale actually started out as 0 (Zero) Scale, 1-6 (guage) were the common sizes at the time, and 0 was the next step down in scale. Wikipedia also has an interesting note that in the US, O Scale is mostly an oversized toy scale, so the trains and props are larger than they should be.

[Ranzadule]

West Wind Games has a 25 or 28mm horror WWII game called "Secrets of the Third Reich." They have lots of minis and also vehicles. Their tanks are 1:60 scale and very nice.

[Joe Kutz]

Secrets of the Third Reich has 1949 robot vehicles...however their Berlin or Bust line have some pretty good vehicles for normal WWII (and Weird War II) games. Artizan also has several different vehicles and guns in their WWII line as well. Crusader has a few different vehicle crews in their WWII lines...no vehicles that I know of though.